[vardaski]

I wanted to run this by to see what others think because I know many of you commish leagues. I really have two questions although the second has multiple parts. I commsih a league on myfantasyleague.com. I gave rights to a co-commish recently because he was doing some of the background design for the website. Today he gets on the message board an leaves this message:
"I am a little hurt Auld. Here you are handing out offers of Donald Brown/Titus Young SR for owners first round pick, yet, I never got mine. I mean, what did I do to make you madat me? Why am I not good enough for that offer? Donald Brown is an explosive back who will be the main ball carrier for Indy for years to come. He is the next LT. And Titus Young Sr will be the man now the Bureleson is out and the Madden jinx has gotten a hold of Megatron. Once Stafford lights it up with Young Sr the rest of the year, people will be saying "Calvin who?"

So again, what is the deal? How come I don't get the same trade treatment."

My first question is based around this. Does your league have any ettiquette rules around trade offers? I believe trade offers shouldn't really be broadcast to other members in the league and is really only between those individual members involved in the trade.

My second question is around this. I believe he knows there are multiple trade offers because with co-commish powers he is able to see trade offers. He has one close friend in this league but I'm not sure anyone else would have shared info with him.

Would you take his commish rights away? Is there a way to hide this from even the commish?

As commish I certainly don't even want to know what is being offered out there because I feel it gives me an unfair advantage bargaining wise over other owners. I just want to be able to rule on trades in the end. I don't tend to look at this ever but it is there.

If there is no way to hide it do you see the advantage it gives the commish and if you are commish how do you deal with it?

[chad@ffLiveWire]

Very poor etiquette on his part to announce this publicly. Even on a private level, this is strange.

I find it odd that MFL allows the commish to see trade offers. I know they allow the commish to see silent auction bids, which I find odd as well. This only opens up the possibility for major problems between the league. You need to have a commish that you trust will not abuse this option.

The league we have on MFL has our own private message board. All trade offers are done through PM and not on MFL. So our commish cannot see them.

He may of heard this information through a friend though. Even then it's poor etiquette to announce your trade offers publicly. Not to mention it's strange he'd feel personally offended that you didn't send him an offer.

We don't have any rules on this, but there are a lot of un-written rules in fantasy football, like not talking about players that haven't been drafted already. Disclosing trade offers from another owner is clearly frowned upon. We've all discussed deals amongst an owner or 2 - "that dumbass offered me this for Ray Rice" type discussions, but to go public with it is not acceptable. Patrolling the unwritten rules is up to your league community by putting offenders in their place - publicly. A simple reminder that you don't appreciate that your trade offers are made public will suffice.

I'd also try to get to the bottom of how he found out about your offers. If he is abusing his commish abilities, I'd take them away.

[chad@ffLiveWire]

And based on his opinion of Brown and T. Young...I'd send him an offer right away!!!

[vardaski]

chad@ffLiveWire, on 26 October 2012 - 05:02 PM, said:

And based on his opinion of Brown and T. Young...I'd send him an offer right away!!!

I'm not even the one who was handing out the trade offers.

So there is no way of hiding the trade proposals from the commish? Anyone else run into this problem and have checked into it? Or if there is no way to hide how do others handle it in your leagues. I sent something to MFL also asking as well.

I guess that makes my decision easy to revoke his rights if there is no way to avoid him seeing these things.

[Aargyle]

Announcing any trade to the entire league before acceptance is poor etiquette, regardless of what the trade offer is. When I've seen it done, I deal with it by not offering the offender any more trades, since they cannot be trusted.

Announcing trades (or really, even evidence of viewing trades) that can be seen by commish's only should be immediate strike three and revoking commish power. It not only corrupts the level of a fair playing field, it destroys all faith in the commissioner as unbiased/impartial. It also calls into question their good sense, announcing this out publicly.

[vardaski]

There is a way to hide them even from the commish. MFL sent me a response and I changed it. I love MFL's functions and website overall but wading through all the different set up menus as commish can be confusing at times.

[Football_Scooter]

chad@ffLiveWire, on 26 October 2012 - 05:02 PM, said:

And based on his opinion of Brown and T. Young...I'd send him an offer right away!!!

Ha!

This!


As for the post, what and a-hole.

Most systems won't let the commish see pending trade offers. I know CBS doesn't.

Agree totally with Chad though - terrible ettiquite, and i think he should be reprimanded on the board for it.

Further I'd strip commish powers - not because they let him see things he shouldn't but because the commish should be setting an ettiquite example for the league.

[devils_advocate_oh]

I believe that the proper response would be to tell you to go to his house and punch him in the face in front of his wife and kids.

[Tough Guy]

You can set it ao the commish doesnt see trade offers. . That would would be a way to help fix this